Comments on: Innovation and Lean Go Hand-in-Glove http://www.reformingprojectmanagement.com/2004/11/10/430/ The magazine for the project age Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:34:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: Loryn Jenkins http://www.reformingprojectmanagement.com/2004/11/10/430/#comment-263 Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 http://www.reformingprojectmanagement.com/2004/11/10/430/#comment-263 Hal, In reading both Joyce and you, I think she's talking about lean (too few employees) and you're talking about Lean (a system of management that eliminates waste). Different topics. Talking past each other. Hal,

In reading both Joyce and you, I think she’s talking about lean (too few employees) and you’re talking about Lean (a system of management that eliminates waste). Different topics. Talking past each other.

]]> by: Hal http://www.reformingprojectmanagement.com/2004/11/10/430/#comment-264 Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 http://www.reformingprojectmanagement.com/2004/11/10/430/#comment-264 Then I should have been clearer. The lean movement worldwide is being mis-characterized as a source of leadership wrong-doing. A company that has too few employees is far different from an agile highly competitive firm. Cost-cutting is not lean. Cost-cutting is just the some ol' thing that unimaginative and irresponsible senior executives inflict on their customers and the employees for the sake of pleasing Wall Street in the current quarter. Then I should have been clearer. The lean movement worldwide is being mis-characterized as a source of leadership wrong-doing. A company that has too few employees is far different from an agile highly competitive firm. Cost-cutting is not lean. Cost-cutting is just the some ol’ thing that unimaginative and irresponsible senior executives inflict on their customers and the employees for the sake of pleasing Wall Street in the current quarter.

]]> by: Sven Bertelsen http://www.reformingprojectmanagement.com/2004/11/10/430/#comment-265 Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 http://www.reformingprojectmanagement.com/2004/11/10/430/#comment-265 Interesting discussion, but I think we are talking about two different production systems. Lean manufacturing is about streamlining an ordered - Newtonian - process, where management to a great extend is top down. Opposite we have lean construction - or lean project delivery - which looks at a complex and dynamic production - and therefore chaotic - system where management must be organized bottom up and the system be operated by local control of the operations along with a distributed right to initiate local improvements. Sven Interesting discussion, but I think we are talking about two different production systems. Lean manufacturing is about streamlining an ordered - Newtonian - process, where management to a great extend is top down. Opposite we have lean construction - or lean project delivery - which looks at a complex and dynamic production - and therefore chaotic - system where management must be organized bottom up and the system be operated by local control of the operations along with a distributed right to initiate local improvements.

Sven

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